Allen, Nice looking pens I used to love making pens out of cedar, and after I mail this one on my desk, I don't ever even want to think about pine for a pen material!! SYP might be a whole different creature, than a Lowes 2x2, I wish my PITH pen looked as good as those slims of yours, I wouldn't be quite as embarrassed to send it out:embarrassed::embarrassed::biggrin: