:rotfl: Thanks. Honestly speaking, there is not a great deal of talent in turning one of Johns blanks. He does the hard stuff, I just put a sharp skew to it and a little polishing. I really hesitate to post anything I do around here anymore as the "kitless" caravan has taken over and I'm not on board there yet.YOU do still turn pens! And you do a good job also!:biggrin: Glad to see you posting. Other than rules that is.