Blank ID Contest Week 2

[wdcav1952]

OK, let's see if I can get the hint and photo correct this time! :redface: You might want to hold your guesses until Dave Lee (Rarestwood) gives the thumbs up that I have these posted correctly!

As before, the contest will remain open until Saturday, when Dave will announce the winner. Good Luck!!! Dave told me that I have it right, so guess away!!

The clue is as follows:

This timber is relatively rare nowadays it is only occasional found in commerce. It is a high quality cabinet timber and has been used for turning cabinet work and veneers. The timber is fine quality, decorative and resistant to termites. (never give a termite a pen) It sometimes has ripples and bees wing figure around 70% of shipments show a red phase in the timber and the other 30% or so have a yellow phase, just occasionally you will find a mottled and variegated boards in a shipment but these are extremely rare, this piece is from just such a board. It has many trade and local names. what I require is that you to seek out is its correct botanical name, and also its Family, sub family, tribe, genus and species if you work out the timber you can work backwards on the botanical taxonomy also I want you to explain why it was named in the particular way the clue is in its species name. The winner will win a couple of blanks from the board.

 

[Pen Maker]

Balsa ?

 

[spiritwoodturner]

Brazilian Cherry, AKA Jatoba

Botanical name:Hymenaea courbaril

family:Fabaceae

sub-family:Caesalpinioideae

tribeetarieae

genus:Hymenaea

Species: H. courbaril L.

cherry="red phase" (Not exactly sure what you're looking for here-Jatoba does have an edible fruit like a "cherry" but it's not related in any way to a cherry)

Dale

 

[tim self]

Bloodwood

Botanical: Pterocarpus Angloensis

Family: Fabaceae

Sub-Family: Faboideae

Tribe: Dalbergeiae

Genus: Pterocarpus

Species: No species priority site assigned.

I think

 

[Lulanrt]

Chechem, AKA Black poisonwood or Poisontree
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Rosids
Order: Sapindales
Family: Anacardiaceae
Genus: Metopium
Species: M. brownei
Che-Chem is the Mayan name for black poisonwood
Travis

 

[UKpenmaker]

Bloodwood

Division: Magnoliophyta
Class: Magnoliopsida
Order: Rosales
Family: Moraceae
Genus: Brosimum
Species: Brosimum paraense syn rubescens

Meaning from the latin rubescens : Turn red, redden, become red.

 

[marcruby]

It probably is something dull like bloodwood, but there is something about the sample that reminds me of another wood which I do know comes in both a light (yellowish) and dark (reddish) state. I'm not convinced that I'm right but I thought I'd throw it in to create some room for disagreement.

Pyingado (or Pyinkado) [I think it may also be called Burmese Ironwood]
Family: Fabaceae
Subfamily: Mimosoideae
Tribe: Mimoseae
Genus: Xylia
Species: Xylocarpa (woody fruit) I also found it referred to as dolabriformis (axe shaped).

Marc (Who will probably perish of embarrassment for this guess)

 

[Rarest wood]

there may well be a hint in the casuel conversation department some brightly shining spark has posted a link to the Book text the blank was resting on.
I am allowed to mention that of all the answers so far one is, "Close but no cigar!

 

[GregHaugen]

RED MAHOGANY
EUCALYPTUS RESINIFERA
Magnoliopsida (class)
Rosidae (subclass)
Myrtales (order)
Myrtaceae (family)
Eucalyptus (genus)
Eucalypteae (Tribe)

 

[Lulanrt]

I knew Balsa was close!!!
Travis

 

[bobskio2003]

Well since everyone is all over the board I guess I'll guess now (so I don't forget to do it later).
I'm thinking it is Narra or Pterocarpus indicus (although it could be microcarpus as well)

Family - Fabaceae
Sub Family - Faboideae
Tribe - Dalbergieae
Genus - Pterocarpus
Speicies - Pterocarpus indicus

Now for the next part I'm not sure if I got what Dave is looking for so I'll say a couple of things and hope one is right.

Pterocarpus = winged fruit -which refers to the unique shaped seed pods
The burl of narra is of course Amboyna - which come from the fact that many of the burls come from Ambon (which is an island in Indonesia)

 

[Skye]

^ That was my guess.

 

[sparhawk]

Im with Bob Narra-pterocarpus indicus-family fabaceae sub-faboideae tribe-dalbergieae genus-pterocarpus species -p. indicus Ptero-carpus means winged fruit Pale yellow to a deep blood red. Termite resistant and rose scented. The flowers are used as a honey source. In the Phillipines the heartwood is used to make dye.

 

[marcruby]

The only thing I have against it being Narra is that pterocarpus indica means winged fruit tree from India. And that's seriously boring. I mean it's the Phillipine national tree and all they can manage is 'from India'?

>

Marc

 

[Rarest wood]

just keep swimming..... just keep swimming..... Getting nearer to P.Sherman 32 Wallaby Way Sidney if you know what I mean

 

[Skye]

JARRAH!

Eucalyptus marginata

Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Eudicots
(unranked): Rosids
Order: Myrtales
Family: Myrtaceae
Genus: Eucalyptus
Species: E. marginata

"The tree and the wood are usually referred to by the Aboriginal name Jarrah. Because of the similar appearance of worked jarrah timber to the Honduras mahogany tree, jarrah was once called Swan River mahogany after the river system that runs through Perth."

 

[Rarest wood]

er no i didnt mean Australia skye I just meant some one was getting closer but if you need another clue..............ok its the state tree of some state somewhere which state? though? if you get the state youlle get the timber pretty much as there connected in its most commonly used name. no more clues for a while

 

[Skye]

It looked similar. Drat! lol

 

[GregHaugen]

What's the "state tree" for the "State of Confusion?" :befuddled:

 

[Russianwolf]

Dave, you're trying to give it away. :alien:

 

[Rarest wood]

What's the "state tree" for the "State of Confusion?" :befuddled:

I believe its Cannabis indica:island:so ime told:hypnotized:

 

[spiritwoodturner]

Brazil Wood (Pau Brasil) AKA Pernambuco (named after the State it grows in in Brazil)

Kingdom: Plantae

Division: Magnoliophyta

Class: Magnoliopsida

Order: Fabales

Family: Fabaceae

Subfamily: Caesalpinioideae

Genus: Caesalpinia

Species: C. echinata

I'm taking a wild guess here, but I think the connection Cav is looking for is echinata has something to do with bees, although I haven't the foggiest idea what.

Dale

 

[marcruby]

I don't believe I just watched the trailer for Finding Nemo...

It's not Magnolia - I've got some of that
or Eastern Hemlock

and I guess it can't be narra or bald cypress -- "This timber is relatively rare nowadays it is only occasional found in commerce."

 

[DCBluesman]

Narra
pterocarpus indicus
family fabaceae
sub-faboideae
tribe-dalbergieae
genus-pterocarpus
species -p. indicus

 

[philb]

Andaman Padauk

Family: Fabaceae
Subfamily: Faboideae
Tribe: Dalbergieae
Genus: Pterocarpus
Species: Pterocarpus dalbergioides

it was this or one other, im taking the gamble on this!

 

[marcruby]

...

 

[marcruby]

There's yet another possibility that looks just like your sample:

Family: Fabaceae
Subfamily: Faboideae
Tribe: Dalbergieae
Genus: Pterocarpus
Species: Pterocarpus soyauxi

AKA Barwood, West Africa Padauk, African Coralwood, Kisese, Mbel, Mukula, N'gula, and Tacula.

The species name comes from the ancient Roman lumberman's song "If you knew Soyauxii like I know Soyauxii. Oh, oh, oh what a (ahem)..."

[Don't believe I put all that effort into a silly tag line..."]

 

[1080Wayne]

Logwood , Bois campeche , Palo Campeche , Palo de tinta . Fabaceae - Caeselpinioideae - Caesalpinieae - Haematoxylum - Haematoxylum Campeche . Named for the area near Campeche in the Yucatan peninsula of Belize where the British logged the tree for the red dye it produced , ultimately leading to the formation of British Honduras as a country . Their flag features two loggers . Haema = blood = red ( except for us blue-blooded pen turners , of course ) .

 

[YORKGUM]

balsa burl? Natalie Wood?

 

[el_d]

Cuban Mahogany, Swietenia mahagoni, Meliaceae, Swietenioideae, Swietenieae,
Swietenia.

 

[Pen Maker]

ewww, look at all these spiffy Latin words, no wonder we feel edgy-ma-cated when we surf here. )

 

[bobskio2003]

Okay, since I've already been told that I'm wrong (ooh the pain) I'll try again. How about Andaman Padauk or Pterocarpus dalbergiodes?

Family - Fabaceae
Sub Family - Faboideae
Tribe - Dalbergieae
Genus - Pterocarpus
Speicies - Pterocarpus dalbergioides

If this isn't it then I truly am lost.

 

[Seer]

NArra (Red Narra)

Red Narra (figured)
Also known as Burmese Rosewood
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NARRA. Pterocarpus indicus Willd., syn. P. pallidus Blanco.
Narra - Pterocarpus vidalianus Rolfe

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It is known as Narra in the Philippines, Sonokembang in Indonesia, Angsana or Sena in Malaysia and Singapore, and Pradu in Thailand.
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Seer

 

[GaryMadore]

Andaman Padauk

It was so named because Burmese convicts who went to the Andamans saw the tree were reminded of the Padauk back home.


Kingdom: Plantae

Division: Magnoliophyta

Class: Magnoliopsida

Subclass: Rosidae

(unranked): Eurosids I

Order: Fabales

Family: Fabaceae

Subfamily: Faboideae

Tribe: Dalbergieae

Genus: Pterocarpus

Species: Pterocarpus Dalbergioides

 

[Pen Maker]

Andaman Padauk

Look who stopped off at the lie bury last nite.

 

[marcruby]

Echinata means 'toothed.' Pau Brazil has a prickly trunk. [I'm expanding on someone else's guess, having used up my own allotment of stabs in the dark].

Marc

 

[GaryMadore]

Look who stopped off at the lie bury last nite.

I ain't never heard of no lie bury. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Well, not so much "stayed in" as "drank a bottle of hooch and passed out in the parking lot of" ....

Cheers!

Gary

 

[bobskio2003]

Good thing Marc is not on a water bed. With the number of stabs in the dark you've taken you'd be all wet by now ;-).

 

[marcruby]

Hey! I've blown any chance of winning this round. I just can't ignore a good mystery. Maybe it really is balsa.

>

Marc

 

[Rarest wood]

marc if you want one more stab be my guest only one more mind so think about it carefully
.........do you cut the red wire or the .....green wire......meanwhile the clock is ticking ...and beads of sweat appear on his forhead.......the girl at his right side tied to the chair is looking nerviously nay pleadingly at him.......little does she know that he is colour blind ..............finaly he makes his choice and cuts....:biggrin: