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Old 12-23-2010, 10:57 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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tommy bar chucks are used by many pro turners and in my opinion the best of the best. i have three styles of nova chucks and the tommy bar chucks are my favorites. if your lathe has a spindle lock you have one bar operating capabilities. when you look at the chuck the movable bar is on the left. if you want to tighten the chuck the movable hole should be below the stationary hole. if you want to loosen the chuck the movable hole should be ahead of the stationary hole. if the holes appear to be in the wrong position merely rotate the chuck 180 degrees. if you learn to use the chuck i am sure that you will indeed love it. also the G3 uses a geared type wrench while the hex shaped wrench is used on the super novas. woodcraft did not bait and switch as the ad said it was a "midi" chuck. they only had the wrong picture which the disclaimer covers.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:00 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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I agree with Parson, write or email the President of Woodcraft and politely ask for his/her help. Or sell it to Andy! :)
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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The description has been changed on the 150305. the proof of this I have already from them that as of this past monday and my email they changed it. I regret that all of you can not compare that description and write up. I think you would agree with me that they discribed the features of the G3 and the showed a more
similar photo to the G3 then the 2 tommy.

Additionally I had no intent for this Conversation to be a debate on the difference only a caution to others making orders and hoping to find others that felt wronged by there poor advertisement.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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There was an error on the back page of the catalog with the wrong picture posted. I checked and the chuck described was the tommy bar model. I went ahead and ordered it and got exactly what was described -- not what was pictured.

Yup they made an error in the picture, and they are trying to resolve it -- but it is not likely that they are going to swap out a light duty midi chuck for the higher grade one.

I found it to be a well machined chuck with low runout and a nice set of jaws for small work. Pin jaws and 25 mm (1 inch) jaws are handy.

Sorry you got surprised, but I do not think this is bait and switch -- just a photo error.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:25 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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I used the web site I read there descrption they admited it was a mistake they missed but that they did not notice it before charging me and swapping me or even until I pointed it out.

The point is purely the web order/site.

- I wanted to find if any others fell into this situation.

Please call them tell them you read the add and agree it was a bad add
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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There was an error on the back page of the catalog with the wrong picture posted. I checked and the chuck described was the tommy bar model. I went ahead and ordered it and got exactly what was described -- not what was pictured.

Yup they made an error in the picture, and they are trying to resolve it -- but it is not likely that they are going to swap out a light duty midi chuck for the higher grade one.

I found it to be a well machined chuck with low runout and a nice set of jaws for small work. Pin jaws and 25 mm (1 inch) jaws are handy.

Sorry you got surprised, but I do not think this is bait and switch -- just a photo error.

Happens with CUSA, too. The problem may very well be that Nova has the wrong chuck pictured in the advertising photos that they send to their distributors.

I do agree with others, in that I have a index lock on my lathe and find the "1 bar" technique preferable to the keyed system.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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I started with the tommy bar midi chuck, and I like it as well as any chuck I've bought so far. I also have the original Nova Chuck with tommy bars, the G3 with geared T-handle, and like them also. The other chuck I have is a Oneway Talon- more on that in a minute.

The midi has a smaller capacity which limits it quite a bit whereas the original Nova Chuck seems like it has miles of room.

The G3 has a bit more capacity than the midi, but I find the geared T-handle a bit troublesome because it sometimes doesn't want to seat until you fiddle with it. Other than that I found it was a pretty good chuck.

In comparison, the Oneway Talon's T-handle is wonderful and you don't have to fiddle with it at all to get it to seat, it just slides right in place. (The jaws for it weren't all that.. but that's another story.)

The difference between the tommy bar system and the T-handle system is that you can get a lot more pressure with the tommy bars than the T-handles. On the other hand the tommy bar system is a little more troublesome as it seems to need three hands, but I didn't find it as annoying as the T-handle that wouldn't seat...
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Old 12-24-2010, 05:13 AM   #18 (permalink)
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woodcraft will always take a return within 90 days for any reason this is there policy. the problem was a wrong picture it happens.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:33 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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The problem was wrong description and wrong picture then once I pointed out the problem they admited yup I was right, they then admit they changed the discription....

But still refuse to give me the chuck they photo and discribe with the jaws that made it the black friday deal.

MY point is use caution when dealing with WOODCRAFT.COM They may not send you what they describe or photo and if you ask for what you ordered they quote there disclaimer that the items may not be exact.

Anyhow I am closing this conversation and my account with WOODCRAFT.COM

Thanks to all for the advise and coments.
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